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Post by mjt on Apr 5, 2014 16:22:33 GMT
Not a good performance guess the week caught up. However the ref and linesman were shocking some quite weird decisions. Salisbury were not good side and fell over at every opportunity conned the ref.
Deserved a draw even though the performance wasn't good played better second half with 10 men not sure what marks did for the straight red.
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Post by bigmal on Apr 5, 2014 16:40:01 GMT
You are being very kind. It was an absolute sh1t performance! I could of played in goal for Salisbury today, I think he was bored.
Salisbury were spoilers all game & we played right into their hands - hit it as high as you can and we might get it over the 6'3" back four.
As for Marks - striking an opponent when the ball is 30' away hoping the ref wasn't watching - what a prat! & then comes off moaning about the ref? Hope there is a large fine coming.
Let's hope for better on Tuesday after a couple of days rest. Even Deano looked jaded today - now that is a one off I'm sure.
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Post by mjt on Apr 5, 2014 16:48:00 GMT
Being kind after a tough week, Marks is a prat then as you say why do it at that time or at all fine him 2weeks money let everyone down doing that. Could look back on this game as the one that cost a play off game.
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Post by 1672 on Apr 5, 2014 16:49:28 GMT
Salisbury were winning almost every header until Jordon Cox came on. Even Dean Wells was struggling against a very determined and energetic Salisbury team. Jordon then won every header that came his way and looked dangerous. I do hope he gets a start on Tuesday in lieu of Sean. I think we might have done better if we had switched from long ball to passing at some point - on the few occasions we did we seemed to do better. However, it could have been worse, as we are still only a couple of points shy of the playoffs, with a match or two in hand.
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Post by irongary on Apr 5, 2014 17:09:03 GMT
BIgmal must have had a different view to me , looked like Clarke was all over Sean and all he's doing is trying to get him off . Certainly not an elbow and Clarke had big smile on his face as he walked passed where I was stood .
As for the performance considering the amount they've played the last 2 weeks I didn't think we looked tired and it certainly wasn't shit just done by some really poor officials . A hard bobbly pitch is never going to equate to great football . Still in with a shout , bring on tues.
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Post by ironmansimon on Apr 5, 2014 19:53:25 GMT
Interesting to read a mixed bag of comments. We did look tired today, Salisbury were another example of a poor team with little ideas, reminded me of Hereford. Soft goal to conceed. But I have to say I have never seen such a poor officating performance from the Ref and Lineman on the dugout side, Even their assessor has come out and said their performance was inept, so what hope did we have? I dont mind losing fair and square but they were a joke. Did not see the sending off but again what about all the fouls on Alex and Dan smaller guys not getting the rub of the green. On to tuesday we go and I feel amust win now looking at the table. Team ratings today: Nik 6 Little to do and beaten easily for goal Matt 6 out of position a right back and showed Sam 7.5 Best in defence today Deano 7 I thought he did ok Alan 7 Won what he was meant to although distribution a little off Chez 7 Worked tirelessly Kenny 7 Got overrun come 2nd half Josh 6 - Poor game today from him Dan 7 - Needs to sometimes see the pass rather than shoot Sean 4 - Was a day to forget Alex 7 - Little guy had tough time but looked sharp when running forward
Jordan 7 Lets hope he steps into seans shoes for next couple games looked positive Luke Too little time to make any impact. So maybe the week from hell caught up with us but lets move on and onto tues. On a more positive note has anyone seen the connie south table ? Will we be seeing Mr Reason next year ? and The claret army seem to be 3rd bottom , What a shame. ha ha ha COYI
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Post by ozbrit on Apr 6, 2014 4:42:15 GMT
Everyone put in a lot of effort during the week. Anyone incl bigmal who hasn't yet read Dean Wells's week on the BBC Essex website - must! - There is a link in a recent Iron chatter thread. These are heroes going into their 4th match in 8 days and have traveled something like 1500 miles in the process as well as having worked in day jobs.
Salisbury on the other hand are full timers and not had a game for a week. As BBC Essex's David Brett and Glenn Pennyfather concluded, neither team was any better than the other, but one was part time, played 4 times in a week and a whole second half with 10 players. This game was the bridge too far for our lads.
First season we surprised many with the 12th place finish, the second season after starting as bookie favourites for the drop we finished 9th. This our third season we're in the mix for the play-offs and I think that's a bloody brilliant effort, even if we don't improve on our current 7th place.
Devs on radio after the game wasn't going to criticise his boys after the week they'd had, though he did say that he would be looking at the match video to see whether Marksy had breached club rules in precipitating his own sending-off, if so a fine will be applied in accordance with club policy.
Saturday evening to Tuesday evening gives a longer break between games than did Thurs night to Saturday arvo, I expect and hope that our boys will up for Macclesfield and if we take the points then we're back in the box seat for the play-offs.
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Post by Iron Webbo on Apr 6, 2014 8:36:00 GMT
Big Mal is, of course, entitled to his opinion, but I don't remember seeing him at Gateshead, Southport and Halifax. I find his abusive statement offensive.
Personally, I think our lads have been magnificent and, just sometimes, we need to reflect on where we were ten years ago and what we're now trying to achieve.
From the bottom of the Ryman League to chasing for promotion to the Football League is one hell of a journey. I'm proud of what we've done and are trying to do.
See you all Tuesday.
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Post by braintreeboy on Apr 6, 2014 9:21:59 GMT
Obviously have to agree with iron webbo here. We are doing a fantastic job but that was the 7th game in 15 days n we still looked the better side even with 10 men! Because of all this I didn't know exactly what to expect yesterday but I actually thought we played really well in the first half n looked dangerous every time we went forward. With 11 men n less biased officials I believe we'd have come right back in the second half. Bring on Tuesday I say )))) COYI
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Post by kieros on Apr 6, 2014 9:50:24 GMT
Obviously the torrent of abuse the Ref received on his way off the pitch after his 'performance' got to him and he continued to show his complete lack of professionalism by acting in the manner he did!! Cant see him receiving a warm welcome back to the Amlin in the near future..... or being allowed to ref at this level for quite a while until he proves his capabilities!! Don't have a problem with Seans sending off but the rest of his performance was.... shall we say "shocking" and he was not helped by the incompetent moron of a lino (clubhouse end) that consistently gave wrong decisions in the favour of Salisbury!!
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Post by e7cm7 on Apr 6, 2014 10:54:00 GMT
If Sean did lash out, then he deserved to be sent off - but if the officials had done their jobs properly & penalised Salisbury's no. 5 for constantly holding or pushing Marks (ie fouling him) then the red card situation wouldn't have arisen.
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Post by braintreeboy on Apr 6, 2014 11:40:37 GMT
So effectively its still the refs fault that Sean was sent off, as he was getting Zilch protection. Everyone's got their boiling point at the end of the day
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Post by fitnessfreak on Apr 6, 2014 12:51:33 GMT
Bigmal is allowed an opinion and can say what he likes however there was no sign of a post to say well done against aldershot or well done against welling or a well done against Nuneaton or an unlucky against Gateshead or a well done against southport or a well done against Halifax. Those 6 matches were in 13 days and we got 4 wins 1 draw and 1 defeat. Players deserve to be tired after that amount of matches in such a short time.
So from me a big well done for getting through them matches and picking up loads of points. Unlucky for yesterday but you can't win them all.
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Post by ironmansimon on Apr 6, 2014 20:20:03 GMT
Having just read the main club website I am shocked at the news of criminal damage caused to the dressing rooms by some mindless individual. I have my opinion of who I think did it I hope they have the book thrown at them with or without his cards in it !!!!
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Post by rustynail on Apr 6, 2014 21:55:16 GMT
Crikey! I wonder whom that can be?! Yesterdays game was very frustrating to watch, ruined by a referee who wanted to be the centre of attention from start to finish. He seemed to relish being unpopular with all but the Salisbury team. Considering we played most of the game with ten men we did well to loose by just the one goal. It was good to see Jordan Cox back and try to rectify the situation. Lets hope he has a good late seasons run. A very important game against the Silk Men on Tuesday.
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Post by ironhorse on Apr 7, 2014 7:52:35 GMT
I have to agree with Lee, we all have an opinion but those that didn't take the trouble to follow the Iron around on tour over the last fortnight are not in a position to criticise one performance, to also play against 14 was difficult on the back of so many games was an incredible effort and lets also remember that it was a rested full time team playing a part time exhausted one. Think on, get behind the team not on their backs. nuff said.
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Post by braintreeo on Apr 7, 2014 10:18:39 GMT
I have to agree with Lee, we all have an opinion but those that didn't take the trouble to follow the Iron around on tour over the last fortnight are not in a position to criticise one performance, to also play against 14 was difficult on the back of so many games was an incredible effort and lets also remember that it was a rested full time team playing a part time exhausted one. Think on, get behind the team not on their backs. nuff said. I also agree with the Chairman, the big picture needs to be taken into account this clubs achievements far outweigh one tired and under par performance. However Ironhorse for you to say that people should not voice an opinion because they did not " take the trouble to follow the Iron around on tour over the last fortnight" is a pretty stupid thing to say. I suspect very very few would have had the opportunity to make those trips for various reasons from work to family to financial considerations and whilst I disagree with Bigmal views he should not be chastised for not being able to make those trips, even though most are able to appreciate what's happening here on a broader canvas. If we were only supposed to take into consideration the dedicated few who are able to travel midweek far and wide and to whom I tip my hat there would be even fewer people using this board - It's deadly quite as it is.
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Post by dbbn on Apr 7, 2014 12:31:16 GMT
Anyone who writes "could of" should be ignored. It appears to be a growing trend to use bad English; especially "could/would/should of" instead of "could/should/would have". As for the referee; we had him down here not long ago. I don't know which game it was, but perhaps we won, so no criticism was made.
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Post by ironhorse on Apr 8, 2014 6:46:33 GMT
BraintreeO, not quite sure why your having a pop at me, it was more about reflecting on the fact that I watched the effort put in by the lads over the last few games, not chastising people for not following the Iron on the road, that ship sailed long ago for me. Certainly though I get tired of forum users who feel the need to run the teams performance down. This is the Conference Premier not the Premiership, we have done so well again this season and one swift does not a summer make. Though I have to say its good to see our fairweather friends returning in their droves to boost the gates!!
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Post by braintreeo on Apr 8, 2014 11:09:42 GMT
BraintreeO, not quite sure why your having a pop at me, it was more about reflecting on the fact that I watched the effort put in by the lads over the last few games, not chastising people for not following the Iron on the road, that ship sailed long ago for me. Certainly though I get tired of forum users who feel the need to run the teams performance down. This is the Conference Premier not the Premiership, we have done so well again this season and one swift does not a summer make. Though I have to say its good to see our fairweather friends returning in their droves to boost the gates!! Yes I gathered from your post earlier that you watched the away games last week, but you stated that Bigmal was not entitled to comment on the Salisbury game because he had not travelled around the country (as you did)the previous week. Now you and I may not agree with the sentiments in his post but he has the right to make comment on the game he saw and if you read your original post back it sounds extremely pompous to suggest that the only opinions that count are those that travelled to the away games last week. I would also say your latest remark about fairweather friends is uncalled for and rather flippant, people support Braintree as best they can and when they can but everyone has different circumstances and go to games as and when they can or want too. you seem to be intent on alienating people rather than encouraging them to come more often. Remember that BTFC gates have just about doubled since Conference South days and I would bet a lot of that increase are what you would deem fairweather friends who want to take in a decent local game when their own sides are away from home.
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Post by mjt on Apr 8, 2014 14:05:06 GMT
BraintreeO, not quite sure why your having a pop at me, it was more about reflecting on the fact that I watched the effort put in by the lads over the last few games, not chastising people for not following the Iron on the road, that ship sailed long ago for me. Certainly though I get tired of forum users who feel the need to run the teams performance down. This is the Conference Premier not the Premiership, we have done so well again this season and one swift does not a summer make. Though I have to say its good to see our fairweather friends returning in their droves to boost the gates!! Yes I gathered from your post earlier that you watched the away games last week, but you stated that Bigmal was not entitled to comment on the Salisbury game because he had not travelled around the country (as you did)the previous week. Now you and I may not agree with the sentiments in his post but he has the right to make comment on the game he saw and if you read your original post back it sounds extremely pompous to suggest that the only opinions that count are those that travelled to the away games last week. I would also say your latest remark about fairweather friends is uncalled for and rather flippant, people support Braintree as best they can and when they can but everyone has different circumstances and go to games as and when they can or want too. you seem to be intent on alienating people rather than encouraging them to come more often. Remember that BTFC gates have just about doubled since Conference South days and I would bet a lot of that increase are what you would deem fairweather friends who want to take in a decent local game when their own sides are away from home. well said BraintreeO - Iron Horse think before you write .... i read a lot of your posts as said in the manner of what you think the people above want to hear.
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Post by ironhorse on Apr 8, 2014 15:03:35 GMT
I've touched a few nerves again!!!! However I may post and they way I post, mostly stating the obvious, I don't hide behind nicknames and non-deplumes and if I am out of order tough, just voicing my opinion as you rightly say we all have, and I don't get personal and I don't pick peoples names out for any criticism. I don't see in my post any mention of any name as you last two posters seem apt to do. I wear my heart on my orange sleeve, can't help it, been around the football club for forty years don't plan on changing now. Sorry if I have offended, don't mean too.
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Post by emirates on Apr 8, 2014 15:18:16 GMT
Guess must fall into fairweather category. Am an Arsenal season ticket holder - my daughter plays for U8 Irons however and I like to show support for our local club when I can. Was at the Salisbury game with my little girl, been 4 times this season - money/support the club otherwise wouldn't have had.
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Post by ironhorse on Apr 8, 2014 15:26:39 GMT
The type of fairweather supporter I am on about are not those that make it to a game when they can but those that only seem to reappear after long absences when the Iron are suddenly in the limelight.........having said that, everyone that comes through the gate to support the Iron once or every game gets my vote, numbers through the turnstiles are the life blood of the club and you can't criticize that, we would all like to see big gates every game but can't have everything. Even the Premiership must have them.......I hear Man U has several million this year!!! ha,ha!!
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